There’s been another “revival” going down in Florida (it’s always Florida) where people have been experiencing healings and miracles and walking away with gold teeth even. (Really, gold teeth now? Why not drop some gold bonds into our laps instead? Seems that would be far more constructive than having to get one of my chompers ripped out just so I can cash in on some heavenly manna.)
Anyway… at least one healing allegedly went awry though when a pastor suffering from bone cancer died only a week later after he was pronounced healed by the repugnant looking Todd Bentley (really dude, how much metal can you possibly jam into your eyebrows there? Though I guess I shouldn’t say anything, since God supposedly told you to mutilate your body… repeatedly… all for His glory I’m sure.)
After I chimed in with my own thoughts on the story at Word N’ Verse, I noticed a comment in response to Isaiah’s post that to put it mildly, was bonknuts insane:
…But blame shifting is not the answer my friend. Todd Bentley believe that God’s word is true – just as you do. Therefore, he can say without any doubt that, “We are healed.” Todd is not the healer. God is. And we are not Todd’s judge. God is.
Good grief what an idiot. Supposing Larry Reed’s story is true (I can’t confirm whether it is), it’s obvious in this context Bentley was declaring that Reed was physically healed, and wasn’t merely speaking in metaphorical terms. Reed after all didn’t make that trip just so he could be reassured that we’re all metaphorically/spiritually healed in Christ, ‘Praise the Lord, Amen’ and all that jazz. He was looking for an actual HEALING.
Bentley made a false declaration, plain and simple. To infer that he was speaking merely in metaphorical terms is ridiculous and offensive.
So what went wrong then? I don’t know, maybe the angels that were assigned to do Reed’s healing were too busy gathering money from the four corners of the earth to support Bentley’s lifestyle that they just couldn’t get to the poor guy in time.
Seriously, this guy is like a Harley Davidson version of Benny Hinn, and you’d think by now people would finally warm up to the shenanigans of these holy rolling scam artists and realize how they’ve been getting jerked around all these years. But nope, proclamations of meeting up with Paul in heaven and conversing with girlie angels named Emma only has the masses begging for more.
Although…. I wonder if Emma is single? Hey, I always believed the girl of my dreams would be an angel from heaven, so maybe if Bentley Boy can hook me up, I might decide not to be so critical of his ministry. :-D
Nah, I’ll do it myself, *picks up cell phone*
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Just because one guy isn’t healed doesn’t mean God doesn’t heal. Healing is scriptural.
It’s a stretch to dismiss revivals, Christianity, healings, and miracles because one guy is kooky.
@MrsMecomber: I don’t dismiss healings or revivals altogether, just this one.
(And a few others…. ok more than a few others…)
Well that’s a relief! For a sec I wondered if you’d turned heretic or something. ;)
Not necessarily aimed toward you, but your post makes me re-realize that a whole lot of energy seems directed on “heretic chasing” but so little energy in the American Church today is toward holiness and virtuous service to God, without which a Christian is not a Christian. The words of 2 Timothy 3:1-7 are unfolding before our eyes, and it is not the gospel message that is at fault here. But sinners don’t realize that, they just brand Christians as “hypocrites” and divided, and therefore they dismiss Jesus’ message. It’s sad.
wow, i always go to the doctor when i’m sick. doesn’t mean i don’t believe God can do it….
LOL, you must believe a lot of Baptists are heretics then. :-D I do think bona fide healings exist, but because of the state of the churches today they are rare and drowned out by these counterfeit revivals.
Most of these miracles I suspect happen overseas in places like China too, not in the U.S.
I was Baptist once. WAS. Then, by golly, I read the Bible, and believed what it said! lol. (readers, skip the hate mail; I’ve heard it all) :-D
John Chysostom and John Wesley said the same thing. It’s a crying shame, IMHO. But healings do take place in the U.S.– that’s for sure. The Holy Ghost is alive and well everywhere!
I think we need a second Reformation and dispense with this emotionalism. Some Christians can be a little too embarrassing in the intellectual department.
What we need is a revival, a real one. One that moves people to repentance, not looking for angels that can bring them cold hard cash.
Unfortunately many Christians seem to lack basic powers of discernment. Many an atheist has had a good laugh starting an urban myth that gets swallowed hook line and sinker by gullible Christians. I believe in physical healings as well, just not the kind that can be called down from above at will. Name it and claim it doesn’t hold water.
It’s gotten to the point where I can’t abide by it anymore. If I was at a revival and the pastor made an altar call by saying “Come get some!” I would have gone up there and beaten the snot out of him. Then I’d get a pair of pliers and twist his eyebrow rings off just for good measure.
Not that I had anyone specific in mind though. This is merely hypothetically speaking.
Great comments.
One church I went to actually encouraged the members to be idiots. They quoted the verse “God has chosen the foolish things of the world… not many noble, not many mighty…” So that gave them an excuse to be dumb! :O
Willful ignorance is a wee bit different from being born stupid. I claim the latter.
I think my eyes need healing after THAT post.
i’ll never come back to this website again so i don’t care what you say, even though its been a while since anyone has posted anyway but i would just like to say that when i read the article i was really happy because i believed i had found something which really tells everyone how stupid christians are, unfortunately the comments made me vomit. Get over yourselfs, God isn’t real and no one gets magically healed by some old scavy guy with rabies and just to say:
text the words “god loves you” to 20 mates and get a free dancing jesus screensaver for your mobile!!!
All christians are gay
God isnt real even though i love him and blame him for all of my problems fhghsjksfhjkfjksdgfjks
omg i h8 sk8rs thy r so gay, lol!!
…. well my slang seems tto be slightly different to whoever wrote the note at the bottom as flame-bait sounds stupid so ill say nothing more about that…
i heard lincoln adams had an all male orgy in early 2007… not very christian or manly of him…
bye bye
p.s. in case you stupid christians didn’t guess i added a little bit so you will have to delete this loads of times…. does stupid christians count as flame-bait? ah whatever ****KERS!!!!!
i know this probably has nothing to do with christianity but what’s the point of being a vegetarian? and why isn’t there enough people hating religions in this world?
The previous commenter is British. ‘Nuff said. :-D
aha, the guy who posted this is american. Enough Said.
And seriously get over it, who cares if people have different beliefs then you can’t you just keep your opinions to yourself instead of letting rip on some pathetic website? I thought kids were immature but obviously some people never grow up.
This coming from a 13 year old with a MySpace page?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!
Run along now and play with your dollies little girl. ;)
Yes, it is coming from a 14 year old.
But excuse me when have you ever had to be an adult to defend what you believe in?
Melia,
You’ll disagree with me here, but you probably have to be an adult before you KNOW what you believe in.
Maybe in some peoples minds. But not in mine,
Melia, you sound like an immature, spoiled little brat, maybe because you are in fact, an immature, spoiled little brat. Go bother somebody else and leave the grownup discussions to the adults, mmm-kay?
Both of you are completely pathetic. If you truly and completely believe in something and understand (it does not matter what the belief is) then you might realize that defending your belief(s) is a futile action. Perhaps both of you do not absolutely understand what it is to have complete faith in anything.
Take the story of Abraham and Isaac. Lincoln Adams do you really believe that you would be able to kill your only son/daughter for the mere pleasure of God knowing that you had complete faith in him? Would you be able to have complete faith in both of these statements: I will kill my only son. I will have descendent. My son will live?
So before you go trying to validate your beliefs and opinions by possibly hurting a child’s self esteem when they are just trying to grow up, why don’t you think for a minute and put everything I just said into perspective.
Salutations!
A suggestion: It might help not to drink or drop some acid before making inane comments on my blog. Seriously, what are you even talking about? Have you never heard of the sufficiency of having faith the size of a mustard seed? Have you never heard of contending for the faith once delivered to the saints?
Typical New Yorker pseudo-Christian schmuckhead female. Go back to studying your books little girl. Or better yet, pick up a Bible sometime. You might learn something.
We really do need to get back to the critical thinking Jesus and his followers engaged in. Take that, you Christophobes! :
Christians, or more accurately CINOs do not engage in critical thinking. They merely chase after every fad and shiny object they can find.
Well, I wouldn’t attribute the lust for mental fads & shiny objects as a solely Christian failing–that pretty much covers most of humanity and all religions, even those that have allowed themselves to be political causes.
One of our great temptations is to fault the philosophy and not the follower whether it’s Christianity, Constitutional Republics, capitalism or any other set of beliefs tested by life’s natural law and human nature.
To your credit–if no one else’s–you did specify CINOS and not true Christian faith. So my comments are addressed to the increasing bigotry against Christians and Christianity (also the beleaguered Jews) while the persecutors fail to look homeward.
The whole thrust of Christianity is about critical thinking, which is why it’s maddening to see humanity treat as it were any old religion and take on the mantle of Christendom under such false pretenses.
Yes, some of the new age atheists who specialize in projecting rather simple-minded bigotry have been paid well lately for their shallow readings. Glad you pointed out the reason so necessary to Christian faith.
lol, I can’t believe you got into it with a little girl, though I have to agree with her that judging someone’s resolve in their beliefs by age alone is quite a foolish assumption. There are kids in this world who have been through far more trying times and tests of their beliefs than most people in these good ole’ states ever will. Yes, for the most part kids don’t know what they really believe in til they are older…but not all kids.
And quite frankly, I’ve seen people burned because they make this assumption far too often.
As for Christians…
There is nothing wrong in the religion but like any other ideal philosophy…it is far easier said than done.
She started it.
All Christians are retrograde morons
ISIAIh 41 BRING forth your IDOLS did they PREACH to you see they can’t speak they can’t DO ANYTHING all they do is cause confusion. spalms 115 and spalms 135 thier IDOLS are FALSE cant speak can’t hear cant smell and those that make them shall become like them. Jeremiah 10 they nail their IDOL down like a scarecrow it can’t move can’…t speak can’t move must be carried these are nothing but the WORK of CON men.john 10 jesus christ sais his sheep hear his voice and another voice thy will not follow and if another person tries to preach to them they WILL FLEE from him. jeremiah 5 the priests bear rule on their own authority what will you do when your judged my word is not inside them. Now here is the kicker john 5 son of man voice goes back in time mathew 16 jesus christ claims to be the son of man. 1 cor2 mind of CHRIST preached internally and john 16 sais the spirit of truth comes in the future. Ezekiel 13 lying prophets of ISRAEL my word is not inside them saying god sais god sais god sais wrote hoping mankind would CONFIRM their WORDS. all of this is EASILY verifiable.
That must be one hell of a drug you’re taking there.