but we cannot question the coming of revival–
The Lord has yet many souls to save in our nation and i believe that there will be a great harvest yet to come that we have not seen nor percieved.
I am an intercessor, so is say REVIVAL IN AMERICA or I DIE.

thats what we should all be saying..

Bretton Woods didn’t cause the crisis though. That’s like a completely different subject altogether, unless it’s your assertion that the economical climate it created helped LEAD to the subprime mess we have now.

I don’t normally waste my time with anyone who plays fast and loose with the truth as you did, but now that I’ve had my coffee, I’ll point out a few things:

It’s almost like there was a divine hand behind the scenes making things fail. Meanwhile, most Americans care much more about the threat we’re actually facing – the decline of our economy

I agree with this actually. The timing of when the financial crisis finally came to a head is too coincidental to have been random, since it effectively ended McCain’s campaign. Had it not presented itself for another 2 short months, I suspect McCain would have won the election.

Instead of the POSSIBLE threat that MAYBE someone else in the world ISN’T too poor to launch a crudely made missile at us from very far away. Result? Election.

This is just stupid. There are real threats and they don’t come in the form of a crude missile, but in terrorist attacks funded by hostile nations including Iran, and if they can’t attack us, they attack our allies instead. These aren’t theoretical threats that occur in some vacuum. They’re quite real, and the respite in attacks since 9/11 has only gone to make us complacent and overly confident that it wouldn’t happen again.

However, you decided to call me obtuse because in the middle of burgeoning problems, we elected- a liberal. Because Obama’s SO busy trying to find a judge to mess with Roe v Wade that he’s not aware that there are other people in the world, potentially with some sort of weaponry and ill will towards our country. Alright. Cool.

Yes, that’s what were all concerned with, Obama leaving babies out to die while the bombs drop on us. Please. It is not Obama’s ignorance but his approach, which rings of Chamberlain. To even suggest talking to Iran without preconditions (assuming he only said this to pander to his extreme liberal base) indicates the fallacy of his platform (which sees us as the bad guys), and if we only started treating the world with sugary love and goodness, rainbows will appear, terrorists will lay down their arms, and we’ll all be singing happy songs around the campfire. There’s a reason why Sarkozy slapped Obama down on this. His foreign policy views are quite bluntly immature and dangerous.

I’m obtuse for wanting to pray, wait for an actual verifiable threat, and not immediately fly off the handle.

So you want to wait until AFTER we have another 9/11 before you’ll be convinced? And you’re baffled as to why I would call you obtuse? How about I just call you a damned fool?

Also, you mention that the financial crisis has been in the making for a few decades now. You’re right. It started with the Bretton Woods agreement (under Nixon – a conservative)

It started with subprime mortgages. Simply put, had there been no subprime mortgages that defaulted en masse, there’d be no financial crisis. There might be other extenuating factors that determine the health and well being of economy, but the mortgage crisis has been the 800 pound gorilla through it all.

And by the way, Nixon was a moderate at best, not a conservative. He imposed wage/price controls, created the Supplemental Security Income, created the EPA and OSHA and implemented the Philadelphia Plan (affirmative action), and even planned to create universal minimum income and universal health care. That’s a conservative?

The budget was repaired somewhat during the Clinton administration, who left the office with a budget surplus (but oh no, he sexed that girl).

Nice to see you make light of how he embarrassed us before the world with his Oval Office shenanigans. But oh, I forget, that’s all the evil GOP’s fault, even though they provided a check and balance to his policies and played a role in creating the surplus as well. Had there been a democratic Congress all along, I’m convinced Clinton would have left with a major deficit instead.

Then came our current president, Bush Jr, who plunged us into war, mismanagement, torture, and economic turmoil.

I see you just had to get your DailyKos digs in, but Bush is not to blame for the economic turmoil that had already been in the making for a while (though he did little to prevent it either.) In a lot of ways he’s actually like Nixon, hawkish in some respects on foreign policy, but a liberal weenie at home. His push for expanding home ownership (as Clinton also did) made him a part of the problem too. Whining about torture and war mismanagement (which is already arguable) is just detracting from the actual issues here. Not that I’m inclined to defend Bush however, as he also was never a true conservative, and neither was his father. In fact the only true conservative we’ve had in recent memory was Reagan. The rest were pretenders.

All this though is largely besides the point, because what we’re seeing now is a perfect storm of unprecedented circumstances leading to a severe time of distress that could likely surpass even the Great Depression. My post here touches on this but is really addressed only to Christians, not unbelievers. If the events described actually happen, then while they signify times of calamity, they also give reason for hope. To nonbelievers though it’s all a moot point anyway, and if that’s the case for you as well, what’s it to you? Leave us to our redneck ignorance then.

Unfortunately, Bush Sr entered office and was unable to keep his “No New Taxes” promise, which along with the war in Kuwait drained the US Economy. The budget was repaired somewhat during the Clinton administration, who left the office with a budget surplus (but oh no, he sexed that girl). Then came our current president, Bush Jr, who plunged us into war, mismanagement, torture, and economic turmoil.

So it seems the crisis has been coming on for decades, with two shining lights (one conservative, one liberal), and a bunch of Republican mismanagement. Seems to me like the score is even.